(My posts as Karen Ono (italics) and the Palinbots are in blockquotes)
Added comments for this blog, in bold.
Claudia Darrow: Because of Obamacare provisions and comments by the Prez, I think he hated his Grandma. He threw her under the bus during Rev. Wright controversy and now he wants to pull the plug on everyone's grandma. Pluse he lies about what he is doing. Did anyone ever see her during the campaign?.
SHE THINKS HE HATED HIS GRANDMA! WHO MAKES STATEMENTS LIKE THAT???
Answer: Self-righteous people do. People who are judgemental, who know best what and how people feel.
Chris Freetobe: Never thought of that Claudia but it could very well be!! He doesn't seem tight with any of those relatives from what I can see?? None. Except his immediate family.
FROM WHAT SHE SEES? WHERE? ON PALIN'S HATE SITE???
Karen Ono:Claudia ... apparently you weren't paying attention during the campaign? Obama's grandmother was gravely ill for many months; Obama went to Hawaii to see her.
She died a day or two before the election.
What is your point?
OK THIS IS A PET PEEVE OF MINE: DURING A CAMPAIGN, PEOPLE SHOULD TRY TO GET INFORMED. IF SHE DOESN'T KNOW THIS >>> WHERE WAS SHE GETTING INFORMED ENOUGH TO VOTE?? IT WAS 24/7 ON THE NEWS!!
Crusaders ForAmerica:It has always bothered me how BO has not talked about his family as his inspiration. Apparently he has said how much he admired his father (in his books) that was a bigamist and deserted him.
ANOTHER ONE WHO 'HASN'T HEARD, SO IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!
Claudia Darrow:Obama certainly is quick to deny care to seniors. I loved my Grandparents; I would never do such a thing. Remember he said that she should have been denied a hip replacement? And he lets his aunt live in public housing. No, I don't think he loved her by the way he acts.
MORE JUDGEMENTAL COMMENTS, BY SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW OBAMA'S GRANDMOTHER DIED 2 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. WHAT DOES SHE BASE HER 'KNOWLEDGE' ON???
Karen Ono: Obama spoke about his mother's fight with cancer many times.. that is his 'inspiration' for fighting for health care, the fact that while his Mom was dying, she had to deal with Insurance companies refusing treatment or making it difficult. He also spoke about his grandparents a lot, who raised him for some years while he was young.
I guess you just didn't want to hear it.
Crusaders ForAmerica: He is a deplorable pig that has never had to work for and pay for anything this country has afforded him!
MORE INTELLIGENT COMMENTS FROM CRUSADERS FOR IDIOCY.
Crusaders ForAmerica: Karen, what is sad is when you will get it is when it is too late. I have no time for people with your mind set. BO is a traitor to this country.
What he is doing will cause you distress or your families, ultimately. How sad for you that you can't see that.
THESE PEOPLE BREED??? MY GRANDKIDS WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH HIS OFFSPRING???
Claudia Darrow: Karen. he's a politician. He would use anyone apparently to get votes. What he has done says how he feels about his grandma. I would never want to pull the plug on seniors because I loved my grandma. And, he talked about his Aunt in one of his books...and there she is, living illegally in this country, and living in public housing and on public assistance in South Boston. Yeah, he believes in being your brother's keeper...for everyone else.
LOGIC ALERT: Obama 'lies' because he is a Politician. Sarah, is honest because she says she is!
Jean Gilles:Karen, Obama has lied so much during the campaign and since he took office I don't think anyone believes what he says anymore. If he said the sky is blue, I would have to look for myself. If you recall he campaigned differently in every state he visited and many contradicted others.
MORE LOGIC LAPSES: HOW DUMB DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO SAY THIS?
Karen Ono: Claudia .. more nonsense. WHEN has Obama 'denied' care for Seniors? When? Just because you 'hear' it from someone else, doesn't make it true. So, where
exactly is he 'quick to deny care for seniors' ??
And ... his aunt lived there for years, if he had 'moved' her, you would be putting him down for that.
Claudia Darrow:If he loved his mother so much, why does he seem to only consider himself as non white? Remember during Rev. Wright, how he through his Grandma under the bus, implying that she was a bigot like Wright...who was there to defend himself. His Grandma wasn't. I would never do such a thing. He has real issues.
MORE THROWING UNDER THE BUS!!! OBAMA MUST OWN A BUS COMPANY???
Karen Ono: As for his grandmother's hip replacement ... he did not say that ... more 'misquotes' and 'misrepresentations' ... do you get ALL your information from anti-Obama sites? Don't you EVER try to find out what someone ACTUALLY said? Too hard isn't it? Much better to believe what someone said he said.
The full discussion is available, but I won't bother giving you the link ... it's obvious that you prefer to 'beleive' what suits you bias, rather than seek the truth. (* text of what Obama actually said at bottom of post.)
Crusaders ForAmerica: Whoever you really are Karen you troll, you are a coward. You are what BO is all about. Hypnotizes the sheep. How pathetic. The post office will be open tomorrow so you can get your check!
RIGHT ABOUT NOW I FIGURE .. CRUSADERS IS A MORON.
Claudia Darrow: Karen, I have posted more links to the bill that show that he is pulling the plug on seniors. I am not going to repeat them now because you haven't kept up. He is a bully that wants to cut billions from seniors to fund the so called uninsured...and even pay for their abortions while he denies seniors vital medical treatment. In fact I just posted a link tonight. Go look for it and read up.
RIGHT ... LET ME GUESS, HER "SOURCE LINK" TO SUPPORT HER ARGUMENT WILL BE YOUTUBE OR WORLD NET DAILY OR >>>>> FOX??
You can rest assured that her link to support her argument won't be ... hmmm .. the actual bill???
Crusaders ForAmerica: I think "Karen" is actually Nancy the piglosi undercover. Who else love this train wreck like she does?
HERE IS A TYPICAL PALINBOT DEBATING TACTIC. JR HIGH 'NAME MANGLING'
Claudia Darrow::Karen, I heard what he said about his Grandma's hip replacement. I would never say that about my Grandma or any other elder. The man has a problem and it shows. Imagine his elderly aunt, who he made money off of by mentioning her in his book, living in public housing on the dole, on my dime, in Mass. The man is pushing a bill that targets seniors for rationing, and his Health Advisor has admitted the goal. Now Karen, you are scaring me. People who want to hurt elders are evil .
OF COURSE YOU WOULD NEVER DO THAT>>> BUT YOU FERVENTLY WANT TO BELIEVE THAT OBAMA DID! Don't you all just LOVE people who are so sure what THEY would do, in a situation they have never been in ... yet ... judge others for imaginary actions??
Crusaders ForAmerica: Claudia, unfortunately your words are wasted on Karen. They come in and make their remarks, and (being the cowards they are) take off. How pathetic they are.
ACTUALLY .... SINCE I WAS BOOTED AND BANNED >>>> WHO EXACTLY IS THE COWARD HERE?
Karen Ono: Claudia .. everyone 'has issues' ... what I respect about Obama, is that he has spent time examining himself, and his willingness to 'think' about things. He has led an amazing life, and he has learned a lot from it. I can see that you don't understand that. You believe that 'you know' how others 'should' feel about things, and that 'your feelings' are the only correct ones. THat is your issue, your lack of introspection makes you unable to understand it in others.
As Peggy Noonan said:: (about Palin, but it applies to you too, apparently) "She wasn't thoughtful enough to know she wasn't thoughtful enough." ...
So I can see, really I can, why Palin appeals to people like her; people who actually think Palin is smart, because .. well she might be smarter than they are.
Crusaders ForAmerica:Karen, you are so brain washed. He has had time to think? At who's cost and who's peril? His amazing life? His parents both deserted him to be left with Communist white grand parents. He was obviously, very confused. He developed a hatred for this country and should have never been put in the position that he is in, if it was not for people like you.
GEE WHERE HAVE WE HEARD THAT BEFORE??? IS CLAUDIA REALLY GLEN BECK?
Karen Ono: OK Claudia ... I made a mistake .. you don't want to know, you want to 'believe' what you believe, and you aren't interested (or are incapable) of informed debate. So .. go ahead, scare yourself silly with Palin myths; I prefer to educate myself, reach my conclusions on what people actually say rather than what someone tells me they said.
So ... I won't waste my time having an 'adult' conversation with you, my mistake.
Karen Ono:Crusaders, on the other hand .. you are an idiot. If thinking is something 'bad' to you, it's no wonder you support Palin. Sounds like you never made it past Jr High. No time to even pretend to talk to you as an adult..
At this point .. I was banned. Only surprise is that I lasted this long. If anyone wants to go to www.facebook.com/palinpatriots .... (and doesn't mind getting banned) go tell Claudia that she is mildly famous!
SO .. then Claudia sends me a PM ... blocked me of course, so that I can't reply, of course, because ... hmmmm I AM A COWARD????
Claudia Darrow::November 11 at 9:01pm
I just blocked you without reading your drivel...Are you such a moron that you can't take a hint?
Makes you wonder: WHY are Palinbots so afraid???
*Text of Obama's actual statement.
>""So now she’s in the hospital, and the doctor says, Look...maybe you have three months, maybe you have six months, maybe you have nine months to live. Because of the weakness of your heart, if you have an operation on your hip there are certain risks that--you know, your heart can’t take it. On the other hand, if you just sit there with your hip like this, you’re just going to waste away and your quality of life will be terrible.
"And she elected to get the hip replacement and was fine for about two weeks after the hip replacement, and then suddenly...things fell apart.
I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost. I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother. Whether...society making those decisions to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill is a sustainable model, is a very difficult question."
Yet it is sitting there at the heart of health-care reform, as Obama anticipates "a conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists" followed by a "democratic conversation" among all Americans.
"It is very difficult," he says, "to imagine the country making those decisions just through the normal political channels." An independent group can give guidance without being determinative, but politicians will ultimately have to find some answers.